Warriors: Sunrise and Omen of the stars/The Fourth Apprentice

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I was looking for some new info. on Warriors and this is what I found. The title for Sunrise changed from Cruel Seasons to Sunrise just because the title was too sad and dark. I loved Cruel Seasons! It was an awesome title! Sunrise is too, I don't know. It doesn't go along with the story at the moment. OK. Now for The Fourth Apprentice, I read that the first book according to Vicky is going to be called Ambush. The series will have a darker tone and a lot more violence (YES!!!). But back to Ambush. I read that it is the book when Firestar joins Starclan (X_X) and Brambleclaw becomes Bramblestar.So not sure about where the series is heading, but I'm curious.

Update!

I read somewhere, I forget where, but that the Fourth Apprentice will be revealed on the last line of Sunrise! What a cliff hanger, right? And of course, most of you know the cover of Sunrise can be found on the back of Long Shadows or from the link in Coals forum. I can't wait till this book comes out!

Update

I also read on Wikipedia that, well I somewhat doubt this, but it was said that Firestar would die in "Ambush," the possible title for the first Fourth Apprentice book (I already mentioned this, but whatever), and Brambleclaw wouldn't succeed him... Hm. That would be quite a twist, wouldn't it? I hope it doesn't happen. But that could get either Lionblaze or Hollyleaf, probably Hollyleaf into the leader post, and that could be where the Erin's are heading. I'm not sure. I don't know where they're heading with this whole story, but I can't wait to find out.

Update

Also I read on Wiki. that Code of the Clans is coming out July 9th, and the first of Fourth Apprentice is coming out sometime next fall.

Another thing I found was that it's said that Hollyleaf is the evil one (probably), but also that she will die in Sunrise......Now that just doesn't make sense. Well it could, but at the moment, it doesn't. Even if she does turn evil, which I totally hope she does, though I'm like her more now than ever, but Jayfeather is my favorite character, why might she die?! She needs to fill out the prophecy. If she's even one of the cats. I'm sure she is, but she might not. The Fourth Apprentice might be the third. Who knows? Anything can happen. But I still think Holly will be one of the three. If she is the evil one, she must have the most powerful power of the three. Now I'm even more anxious for Sunrise!(Update) I just read that it was said that Lionblaze will be the next leader of Thunderclan. That could be a reason why Holly might turn evil.

BIG UPDATE!

Some of you might now know, but Vicky has just confirmed that the fourth series will not be called The Fourth Apprentice, so that title is now the first book of the fourth series' title, and the fourth series' title will now be "Omen of the Stars." Also "Bluestar's Prophecy" will indeed be out this August.

UPDATE!!!!!!!

I just read on wiki. that there will a series or something called Warriors: A New reign, and it will be centered around Holly's and Lion's kits! What does that mean? A possible fifth series?! The site doesn't have a link to the new shocking info., so it might just be a rumor for now, well it is a rumor at the moment. Supposedly the first book's title for "The New reign" is "Chasing Stars." We really really really NEED another Erin Hunter chat. So many questions. The Ravenpaw manga trilogy titles have been possibly named on the site, too, which are Ravenpaw, Barley, and Violet. Also the Skyclan special edition's possible title is Skyclan's Revival, and the early Clan's special edition's title is Clan's Beginning. Like "The New Reign," a link to these titles is not there.

Update

On wikipedia it is stated that in "A New Reign," the possible fifth series or whatever it might be, will have Lionstar(blaze) as leader and The Fourth Apprentice as deputy. So this totally gets rid of Breezepaw(tail?) as the Apprentice, but he could hae been adopted into Thunderclan. It also says that it has been confirmed along with the movie, but there's still no source... So far for the movie, it said that four voices have been chosen for Firestar, Graystripe, Lionheart, and Bluestar.

Here's the link to Warriors wiki. page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warriors_(novel_series)

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KEWL! But Firestar's death

KEWL! But Firestar's death better be good, i havent followed him for this log not to have a great ending, and he better still talk to the cats when in StarClan

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Neat! I'm not to sad that

Neat!

I'm not to sad that now we might know when Firestar dies...he lost his awesomeness shortly after he became leader. x__x

He was the AWESOMEST character for the first series, O.K in Firestar's Quest, Midnight, and Moonrise; but Dawn? Blech. The event of Graystripe being captured turned Firestar into a rather boring character for the rest of TNP.

And he was even worse when TPOT started! He became to attached to his emotions far to much , and seems to have forgotten that he really shouldn't accept TO many out-of-Clan cats.

And I just hated the scene in Dark River where Millie insists on not having a warrior name. It was probably one of the cheesiest scenes Erin has written. -__-

EDIT: Let's just hope he gets better in the last two books of TPOT. He probably won't, though. -__-

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I agree with tale FIRESTAR

I agree with tale

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The series will have a

The series will have a darker tone and a lot more violence.

Yahoo!!! =D =D =D

I read that it is the book when Firestar joins Starclan and Brambleclaw becomes Bramblestar.

Hmm... I don't know what to think about this. I love Firestar to death, and never want him to die, but it has to happen some time. And I want to see him go out with a bang, not be left in eternal mystery as to how he died.

On the other hand... Bramblestar? Does it have to be Brambleclaw for the next ThunderClan leader? No! -_- I... really want to see Hollypaw become a Clan leader, actually. Yes, Hollypaw has gone from being my least favorite of the three to my favorite! *hugs Hollypaw*

Just wondering, Waterstripe, where did you get this information? From Wikipedia, or from an interview with Vicky, or...
I'd really like to know. Thanks!

This is so cool! Back to the Warriors books I once knew! Bloodshed and betrayal and violence and masochism and pain and cruelty... *hyperventilates* No, I'm not a morbid person. I just like my kitty cat stories to be morbid, ha ha.

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Yeah, I agree with Ivy there

Yeah, I agree with Ivy there on Holly. ^__^

And we need more violence! Before Eclipse, the last decent battle was in Starlight.

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Poor Firestar... ;_; It will

Poor Firestar... ;_; It will probably be the most emotional part of the series yet. I will cry, I won't deny it. That sounds like Vicky though, MORE VIOLENCE! The name Ambush is cool. I just wonder who the next deputy will be? *ponders*

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*five

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO! =D
I can't wait! It sounds like The Fourth Apprentice will really bring the series back up =D I CANNOT WAIT! =D

I also hate Firestar, but I think I'll still cry when he dies. I mean, I hate his guts, but... I just love to hate him, and I'll miss him lol. And I hate Brambleclaw even MORE, so having him as leader *shudders* - it would be like president Bush being assassinated and CHENY TAKING OVER THE WHITE HOUSE D= In other words, it would suck lol XD

But this is going to be AWESOME! =D


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Good point, Losty. ^__^ Or

Good point, Losty. ^__^

Or like having McCain win the election, die during his presidency, and Palin takes over. *shudders*

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Love your connections to

Love your connections to politics guys. Ha. But Ivy I found it on Wikipedia. And I think either Hollyleaf or Lionblaze will become deputy after.

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Sparrow: Just the thought of

Sparrow: Just the thought of that makes me die a little bit inside - but in a weird way, I'll be sad when she finally leaves the public eye. It's one of those 'love-to-hate' things lol XD

Waterstripe: Lol, thanks =)


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fa-firestar??O_O dies???

fa-firestar??O_O dies??? NO!
my take:
Hollyleaf: Leader
Lionblaze: Deputy (or other way around)
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Hollyleaf:

Hollyleaf: Leader
Jayfeather: Medicine cat
Lionblaze: Dead

I don't want Lionblaze to die but... his death would save many lives, you know?.

I totally understand the Sarah Palin analogy. Except Palin would have to be Ferncloud. No birth control, ever. Ha.

If you got it off Wikipedia, the whole thing about Firestar's death probably isn't confirmed. Just a random fan's speculation about what's going to happen.

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No. A lot of the things I

No. A lot of the things I find on Wikipedia are true. I don't know why people mistrust that site. I love it!

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I agree with Ivy (September)

I agree with Ivy (September) about Firey. I miss him already. I just LOVE Firestar to death (no pun intended), & can't bear the thought of losing him. So I just have to say it - NOOOOOO!!!!!!

Losty: LOL. What an analogy. That's great. And I can't wait to hear no more about Palin.

Oh, Sparrow, don't even think it (Sarah Palin)!

Wikipedia is sometimes iffy... I think you have to keep checking new info there to see if it's disputed or changed. But I do use it a lot for a general reference source.

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I hope firestar gets an 'I

I hope firestar gets an 'I saved the clans from certain doom' badge in starcalan. O.o
and an important place in starclans heirarchy, or social order, or whatever.

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LOL, Ivy, totally XD Cmoon:

LOL, Ivy, totally XD

Cmoon: Yeah, but she's just so easy to mock! LOL - I hope she keeps TRYING to get into the White House, and keeps failing, basically XD


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I'll miss Firestar, but its

I'll miss Firestar, but its about time for change and he can't live forever, right? I agree, I loved the title Cruel Seasons better than Sunrise!!

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More darkness and violence

More darkness and violence is definitely going the right way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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0_0 can you provide links? I can't beleive that vicky

would let that much info out of the inpenetrable safe that is her scheming mind (when it comes to warriors, lol)
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Yeah, I have to agree with

Yeah, I have to agree with hazel. I want links too, and seriously. Firestar's death sounds like a very...well, LARGE spoiler. I usually always trust the magnificent wikipedia, but on this...I'm not so sure.

Hazel, Tumble: I hope

Hazel, Tumble: I hope you're right, but I'm worried that Quaily might be right, He can't live forever - though he will in my heart. And Cruel Season(s) was a very cool title.

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Awww... I don't exactly like

Awww... I don't exactly like Firestar, but I think I may cry when he dies. I mean, I've been with this series since... like, first grade. (Or second) It will bring back a lot of memories and I'll get all nostalgic. D=

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CMoon - I want him to die

CMoon - I want him to die SOO bad, but based on the information ive heard from the Erin's, they make it sound like he'll be around for a while longer...but wait...they never tell spoilers....

Like, I actually sorta hate FireSTAR, I loved Firepaw, liked Fireheart, and I dislike Firestar with a passion...

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I could go with the dark

I could go with the dark tone. I like Brambleclaw, personally, but not so much as to rejoice his name every time I hear it. And as for Firestar, I'm with the Clan on him. What has happened?!

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NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! ev

NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
even though i love Firestar, i really think that sometimes some cats just have to die.(except for Sandstorm. she is immortal:)
but must i reapeat the no's. why must brambleclaw become leader. Graystripe was more qualified in many many many many more ways.


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Um, guys? IT'S BEEN

Um, guys? IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED BY VICKY THAT FIRESTAR WILL DIE IN THE LAST BOOK OF TFA AND BRAMBLECLAW WILL NOT BECOME THE NEXT LEADER.

And we've known about Sunrise for a long time.

*sighs* Never trust Wikipedia on Warriors unless they have something to back it up.
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I knew everyone knew about

I knew everyone knew about the change of title, I wasn't sure if they wanted to know why or if they did.

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Where's the link? I would

Where's the link? I would like to see one please.
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Oh God, I HATE Sandstorm.

Oh God, I HATE Sandstorm. -___- I hated her as Sandpaw, and I still hate her. Since I have to leave the computer soon, I won't explain why right now.

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Heartwing you can just go to

Heartwing you can just go to the google and type in Warriors, and go to the link that say Wikipedia: Warriors (novel), or go to wikipedia.com and type in Warriors, and pick the link that says Warriors(novel) by Erin Hunter.

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Update! I love K.C./The

Update!

I love K.C./The Veronicas/C.U./L.L./J.S.
Status: Reading Breaking Dawn, waiting for Long Shadows, and waiting for Kelly's cd!

I love K.C./The Veronicas/C.U./L.L./J.S.
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Umm....The name "Sunrise"

Umm....The name "Sunrise" was confirmed quite a long time ago O_o

Flamey: I thought Vicky said Firestar dies in Sunrise?! Oh, StarClan! Yet another series about a Clan under his leadership -_-"

Ambush.... Sounds awesome! But aren't ambushes surprise attacks? Battles (except for books like Eclipse, Starlight and ones with major battles) don't last too long. Maybe the Clans are after each other again?

I would love for leader to be Holly, deputy = Lion and Med. Cat = Jay but of course that can't happen -_-

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Cool!

Cool!

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Update! I love K.C./The

Update!

I love K.C./The Veronicas/C.U./L.L./J.S.
Status: Reading for Long Shadows, and waiting for Kelly's cd!

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I've heard about the

I've heard about the Firestar dying part in Ambush but Brambleclaw not succeding him? *is not wanting that to happen*
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~Icetail of SkyClan~ I hope

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I hope some normal cat like.......Bracken(sp)fur.....if he's not an elder by then.... gets to be leader.... or Sorril(sp)tail....

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there have been cats around

there have been cats around WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY longer than fiefie!!!!
does mistyfoot need to die?
firestar is STILL amazing.

the only good thing IMO about his death is that bramble will not be leader *rejoices*

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Where is everyone hearing

Where is everyone hearing about Ambush, and that Firestar dies and is replaced by someone other than Brambleclaw(if he is I hope it's GRAYSTRIPE!!!!!!!!!LOL!)

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I hope it's Lionblaze or

I hope it's Lionblaze or Hollyleaf that become leader.

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Lightstreak, have you

Lightstreak, have you forgotten that Bluestar, Lionheart, and Yellowfang where the ones that appeared to Leafpool? This could be a sign to the Three. Yellowfang was a Med Cat, Lionheart was once the deputy, and Bluestar was the Leader. And, Jayfeather is a Med cat, LIONblaze takes after LIONheart, and Hollyleaf could become leader because Bluestar was the last one. Just a possible theory.
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Thats a good one!

Thats a good one!

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I just think that Holly will

I just think that Holly will become leader over Lion because she wants to become it so much more. The power that she has will probably have something to help her or have some impact on her leadership. Lion would be a good leader, too, because he won't ever get hurt in battle! But that would probably make some cats suspicious about that, though Tallstar lived for a very long time, and so did Firestar, but that's for another reason. I would just like answers to some of the questions that are still unanswered. Hopefully Sunrise will answer some to most of those.

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Update. I love K.C./The

Update.

I love K.C./The Veronicas/C.U./L.L./J.S.
Status: Waiting for Kelly's cd!

I love K.C./The Veronicas/C.U./L.L./J.S.
Status: Reading kind of nothing.

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I GOT LONGSHADOWS TODAY!

I GOT LONGSHADOWS TODAY!

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When you're finished tell us

When you're finished tell us how you liked it.

Update.

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BIG UPDATE! I love K.C./The

BIG UPDATE!

I love K.C./The Veronicas/C.U./L.L./J.S.
Status: Waiting for Kelly's cd!

I love K.C./The Veronicas/C.U./L.L./J.S.
Status: Reading kind of nothing.